130 vs 110

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Cactused
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130 vs 110

Post by Cactused » Fri May 26, 2017 7:09 pm

So, puretech is a great little engine. But there is the 130 version in a few other PSA cars...anyone got any idea if that's just an ECU change? :P


berapotter
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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by berapotter » Sat May 27, 2017 7:09 pm

Not an ECU change but a new engine map via OBD
Better news is there is a company who can do a claimed 146bhp.
To be fair the economy will go through the floor and emissions probably go up and potentially fail MOT.
They went 110 for a reason.
Also the 130 and 150 have a 6 speed box.
The 130 remap is going to happen once its 3 years old and out of warranty
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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by FrankBullitt » Sat May 27, 2017 9:24 pm

berapotter wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 7:09 pm
To be fair the economy will go through the floor and emissions probably go up and potentially fail MOT.
I doubt it.

My A2 TDi was remapped from 75 to 97bhp and 144lb/ft to 203lb/ft in 2007 and it's never caused me an issue with the MOT or economy wise (and your economy and emissions are entirely linked). The figures are genuine as the remap was done properly on a rolling road. Yes I can boot it more but also in normal driving it can hold a higher gear and doesn't require as much throttle to keep up with traffic.

It is worth establishing the torque limit of the 5-speed 'box though


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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by berapotter » Sun May 28, 2017 6:09 pm

Thats worth knowing.
Questions to ask
Thanks!
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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by Cactused » Mon May 29, 2017 9:44 am

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It is worth establishing the torque limit of the 5-speed 'box though
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Yep..that would be the limiting factor. They do the 130 engine in the 2008 and DS3, but it comes with the 6-spd box, so maybe the clutch is uprated for the additional torque. Could be more trouble than it's worth :cry: Though, maybe a mild remap on the 110 to 125hp or so would be the answer :D


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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by FrankBullitt » Mon May 29, 2017 10:58 am

It's torque that blows gearboxes rather than power - after all power is ultimately just torque multiplied by engine speed. The 130 has 170lb/ft against the 110's 151lb/ft, so not radically different and the performance stats of cars with both engines (such as the C4) suggest the difference isn't huge either - the best example is the C4 Picasso where the 110 also gets a 6-speed 'box.


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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by Cactused » Tue May 30, 2017 8:47 pm

DS3 130
Weight 1090kg
1.2 PureTech (130bhp) Petrol 128mph 8.6sec 0-60

Cactus 110
1.2 (110bhp) Petrol 117mph 9.0sec 0-60
Weight 1020kg

So i'd expect a Cactus 130 to crack 0-60 in 8.5 and maybe 130mph, assuming the 6-spd ratios. Tempting :P


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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by mao » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:08 pm

It's quite an interesting topic for me! I've seen a few threads about chip-tuning, but looks like nobody tried it yet him/herself, am I right?

What's also interesting that these 92bhp e-HDi engines seem to have at least 115bhp on older Peugeot 3008, and I've seen some conversion kits for OBD socket on eBay. So I'm curious if anyone tried ordering one.
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Re: 130 vs 110

Post by Cactused » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:49 pm

As far as i can see there aren't any tuning companies who have actual data on the 110. Lots of them say they can do it, but it's not something i'd like to be a guinea-pig for :cry: Quite surprising considering how many puretech's must be out there across Europe in Peugeot and Citroen.


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