SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

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SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by vaho » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:46 am

I thought I will add my notes and tips how to upgrade the SMEG+ telematics unit on the Cactus.
If your car does not have satnav or DAB options from factory there is a way to upgrade the SMEG+ unit.

First new SMEG+ unit is needed. Be aware that some of the units sold on Ebay have despite the description no Satnav or DAB option. One way to identify the satnav unit is to look which connectors it has. Satnav units have always blue antenna connector in the back and DAB units have brown one. White and gray connectors are standard FM1/AM and FM2. Here is the full option Cactus SMEG+:

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If there is no picture from the back but is a picture from the label it is also possible to identify the unit. The important numbers are level number and software number:

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You are on the safe side if the new unit is H1 or H2, the latter has in addition to satnav also DAB. The software number has to begin with 5. Other softwares are 3.XX.X which is older firmware and 6.XX.X which is SMEG+IV2. I think it is possible to install a unit with older SW but who wants older units, the SMEG+IV2 can not be installed as far as I know. The reason is that all the cars that were originally equipped with it have separate climate control buttons so it lacks a possibility of touch screen climate control configuration. This is the unit which also has Apple Carplay unfortunately.
The equipment levels are described in this document: https://fccid.io/ANATEL/00719-14-05386/ ... C8D0EC/PDF I have seen levels not described there so it is not a complete list but as far as I know Cactus was equipped with units B1, B2, H1 and H2. My original unit was B1.
If the unit is bought the installation itself is a piece of cake. Remove the passenger side lower trim, unscrew the two torx T20 screws, disconnect the connectors, connect new unit and put the screws back.

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Next it has to be coded to the car so the VIN stored in the unit matches with the one stored in BSI (Built in Systems Interface). Until then it works but makes a beeping sound even when the radio is switched off. Also the navigation menu button has to be configured to be present on the touch screen. This all has to be done by the dealer (around 50 euros) since there is no option to configure SMEG+ nor touch screen with unofficial Diagbox and clone interface. I think it is possible to install a unit from Peugeot also but then there is in addition to VIN configuration the need to download the appropriate Citroen profile from PSA servers.

Then the only thing is the antenna. It is reported that the simplest GPS antenna for a ten or so euros/pounds from Ebay works perfectly fine placed under the dashboard. The original antenna base and cables do not cost a fortune also (about 100 euros in all) and there are these antennas on Amazon: https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... ex+antenne The problem is however that it is very difficult/impossible to install a new antenna base without removing the roof liner. I therefore went a different route and bought this kind of antenna (there are black ones also): http://www.scan-antenna.com/product/satfix-1-gps-white It has to be active with 5V phantom supply because SMEG+ applies 5V to the antenna.

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It has an FME-male connector so I ordered 5m RG174 cable from the local radio shop with FME-female connector in one end and Fakra blue connector in the other. RG174 coaxial cable is used originally also. I routed the cable under the right edge (my unit is in the right side) of the roof liner and installed the antenna into the rear spoiler:

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The spoiler is attached with six 10 mm bolts and with some clips. Unscrew the bolts and pull the spoiler off:

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Small section of the inner part of the spoiler has to be cut off in order to make a hole for the antenna mounting. It is the only center point.

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The FME-female connector is thin enough to go through the rubber boot of the trunk hatch. Then route the cable through the existing rubber boot on the spoiler or make a new hole (the hole has to be sealed) for it.

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Since the spoiler is not completely waterproof from underneath I put some silicone into the hole of the antenna mounting where the cable comes out.
In order to get better access under the roof liner the c-pillar trim has to be removed. To do that the black pieces have to be removed first then it is possible to remove one screw from the white trim pieces. The roof liner has two plastic clips in the back also which are easy to remove. Then you can pull the liner downwards a little.
So all done and 12 satellites visible :D

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Total cost: SMEG+ - 275 euros (with shipping), antenna 25 euros, cable with connectors - 10 euros, configuration by the dealer - 48 euros = 358 euros

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Last edited by vaho on Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by vaho » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:19 am

Did a map update also. Free download and keygen is available there: https://www.gpspower.net/peugeot-citroe ... g-iv2.html

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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by Cactused » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:55 pm

Wow..very impressed with your ingenuity! I've got sat-nav but appreciate the map-update link


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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by mrscactus » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:56 pm

Anybody know if this one has sat nav?

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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by vaho » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:34 am

Yes, it has. It has DAB also, the brown plastic part of the antenna plug is broken off but the connection is there. It has only one USB connection though and the level (H4) which is not described in the manual I found but as I said earlier it may not matter. The unit seems to be newer than the ones described in my graphics. So, if your car originally has two USB-s you just loose one, if the unit is from Peugeot you just download Citroen profile. And so on.
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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by Peopleselbowpad » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:00 pm

I really want to try this. Seen the head units on eBay and can pick up a gps antenna reasonably cheap but it’s the fitting and coding to my car that worries me. Not sure how much this would cost and who could do it.


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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by vaho » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:36 am

Hi. The fitting is not difficult at all. Only two screws and the plugs and antenna wire. It will work even without the coding only makes a beeping sound. That is how you can check the functions. You can not check satnav though because the screen does not have satnav button activated.
The coding might be the real obsticle. It has to be done by official dealer because the official Diagbox software must be used. There is a way with clone Actia interface and online pin calculator but it costs at least 65 euros (citroen token and pin calculator tokens) and the official software must be used anyway. I managed to get the coding done by official dealer for 48 euros. The problem might be though that the dealers are unwilling to do such coding or they will code the new SMEG unit but only with automatic coding. Additional manual coding may be needed though to code the options that your car does not have originally (satnav option and the button on the screen).
But.... I am sure that you will find a dealer that will do what you want. Just ask around and if that part is sorted out, the rest is easy.
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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by Thor » Sun May 13, 2018 8:00 pm

Great poost Vaho!

More like this. I was also thinking about retro fitting the Grip Control - traction control found in the RipCurl models, and Climate Control.

Researching both.

Questions for your sat nav installation:
1. Would it not be possible to glue the GPS antenna to the underside of the plastic rear wing, instead of drilling a whole in it? Or will in not fit depth wise?

2. I also thought of installing the GPS antenna in the side mirrors instead. Should have space enough.

3. My current car does not have DAB. Does you know if the car still have a DAB radio connector present even if the car’s unit is without? If not how did you solve the DAB antenna?

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Re: SMEG+ upgrade to Satnav

Post by vaho » Mon May 14, 2018 8:17 am

Hi,

1. I guess it is possible, there should be enough room inside.
2. If you do not want to drill holes then I would suggest to buy the rectangular indoor antenna from e-bay and install it to the back of the screen under the plastic cover. The antenna is small enough to fit under the cover, direct view upwards is guaranteed and the antenna and wires are hidden.
3. No, there is no DAB antenna nor wires and connectors. You have to buy the new antenna, install wires and connector.

I did not install DAB antenna because we don´t have DAB-radio in Estonia and it is therefore no use to me. If I would wanted to install it though I think the most reasonable thing is to buy one of these kombi antennas that I have linked. That way you get rooftop GPS also, which is always better. Only problem may be installing it into the roof to replace the original antenna base because the roof liner is in the way.
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